today that job belongs to paul ryan. why were we able to get budgets done when you ran things and can't do it anymore? try not to give me a particularly political or partisan answer. >> it's all personal ability, of course, right? no. look. these are good people trapped in a very difficult if not terrible situation. with a process they're not even using anymore. you went through a very good outline of how the process is supposed to work. the challenge right now in my mind is that no one is using that process starring with as you said the president is going to be late with his budget submission, then congress will not even most likely consider the budget. you put your finger on it. the process isn't working. these are good people, smar people. not that they're anti-budgets. >> we've had disagreements between parties for all of history. why have we been able to get budge es in the past and now our ideological leanings stop us? >> right now people who are supposed to be sitting around a table in a committee room having hear